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What is Athena's Epithet?

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What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby Larry on 04.23.2009 5:21 AM

Anyone have an answer? a comment? I have a story about my wife that I will relate if I get sufficient response to this question.
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Re: What is Athena's Epethet?

Postby jorowi on 04.23.2009 6:27 AM

Are you referring to the Greek goddess of heroic endeavors?
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Re: What is Athena's Epethet?

Postby thermite_sauce on 04.23.2009 6:30 AM

jorowi wrote:Are you referring to the Greek goddess of heroic endeavors?


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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby Larry on 04.23.2009 11:19 AM

jorowi wrote:Are you referring to the Greek goddess of heroic endeavors?

Context is important, isn't it?
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Re: What is Athena's Epethet?

Postby bradmc on 04.23.2009 11:58 AM

ooo ooo tim knows.
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Re: What is Athena's Epethet?

Postby tmead on 04.23.2009 12:06 PM

Athenas Epithet..... The names of Athena? That what we are talking about?


Athena is know by many many names. The one that caught my eye as I was perusing several sources was this one:

Athena was derived from (A-theo-noa) or (E-theo-noa) meaning the mind of God


Maybe be a bit more specific in the question?

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Re: What is Athena's Epethet?

Postby gracie37 on 04.23.2009 6:23 PM

Oh history lesson.
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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby Larry on 04.23.2009 7:37 PM

tmead wrote:Maybe be a bit more specific in the question?

The thread is not actually about Athena, it's really about my wife. I promised I'd tell you a story if I got sufficient response to the original question.
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Re: What is Athena's Epethet?

Postby gracie37 on 04.24.2009 3:36 AM

Ok I will go back and watch 18 kids and counting. Let me know when you are ready :wink:

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Re: What is Athena's Epethet?

Postby tmead on 04.24.2009 7:52 AM

Fine, fine. Carry on. I will wait with great anticipation.

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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby Greg on 04.24.2009 9:12 PM

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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby stevene on 04.25.2009 7:28 AM

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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby thermite_sauce on 04.25.2009 7:41 AM

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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby Larry on 04.26.2009 4:03 PM

We return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

There is no "right answer" to this question. If you have any answer at all, it is an indicator of whether you come from a certain shared background.

This month I've spent a lot of time at the office working with my colleagues on some documents. I mentioned to folks that we need to be consistent in how we name things, "It has to be 'gray-eyed Athena' every time." No one understood what I was talking about. I suppose that it was because none of the others had had the same exposure to classical literature when they were young.

An epithet is a descriptive word or phrase used as a nickname or in conjunction with a person's name. One of the distinctive characteristics of the Greek poet Homer's style is an epithet, as in "rosy-fingered dawn" or "swift-footed Achilles." He almost always refers to the people in his poems (The Iliad, The Odyssey) with epithets. Since these were originally oral poems, they enabled the poet and the to remember the people, and they fit the verse. A name plus an epithet constitute a formula which exactly fits the metric structure of the verse. "Grey-eyed Athena" is one of the common formulae in Homeric poetry.

While I was working I had a chance to spend a lot of time with my colleagues, including one married couple. I got to eat with them, to see them speak about and then see them interact with their daughter. They are very different from me. Liberal, vegetarian, environmentally conscious. Their daughter was just thrilled that we have free soda at the office (I guess she doesn't get that at home), but she was insistent that she find a scissors to cut the plastic rings that hold the six pack together so that no animals would be caught in them.

I was struck by how well this couple communicated. But then it was obvious why. They had been together for 20+ years. They came from the same background. They not only lived together, but worked together. They shared a common background, a common history, and common assumptions. Even when they disagreed, they knew where the other party was coming from.

That made me appreciate the enormous depth of common experience my wife and I share. Even when we disagree, we know each other well enough that we can (if we put our minds to it) understand what each other is saying.

I promised you a story about Brenda. Here it is.

A couple days after my experience at the office, I asked her, "What is Athena's epithet?"

Her instant reply, "Gray-eyed."
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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby stevene on 04.26.2009 4:42 PM

I've read Homer but it was so long ago I don't remember any details. I haven't read any fiction that wasn't Christian (like Left Behind) or Leadership (for my Master's in Organizational Leadership). Not even Christian Sci-fi except for podcasts like Starkeeper and Stan Prolongo.

But I'm jealous of your secret spousal code...
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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby Larry on 04.26.2009 5:33 PM

stevene wrote:But I'm jealous of your secret spousal code...

My conjecture is that every couple that's been together for a decade or more has a shared experience that looks like a "secret spousal code" to outsiders. Each of us who is married should inventory how much we share uniquely with our spouse, and treasure it.

I am so filled with warmth and good-feeling toward Brenda, I can hardly stand it.
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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby tmead on 04.27.2009 7:32 AM

I feel vindicated that I was on the right track, I think I was looking for something a little deeper on the whole Athena rather than deeper on what you took away from it.

I married a girl I knew since we were children. Theres good and bad in being that well known to each other. There is NO mystery at all. We know almost everything about each other as we grew up together.

But 22+ years later, we still hangin in there!

Its nice to hear from en elder married that the love only deepens over time. It certainly not what the world is teaching.

God bless you both, and your marriage, and may your love continue to grow deeper as the years go by.

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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby jorowi on 04.27.2009 7:35 AM

My wife and I are so close she slaps me BEFORE I saw something stupid. :wink:
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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby jen avila on 04.27.2009 1:08 PM

I have a secret code with Dave too. But I bet that is not surprising for most of you. It is a matter of survival really... LOL.

I am a romantic too, actually, and I love to hear real life love stories. Love is lovely. Ahhhh...
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Re: What is Athena's Epithet?

Postby carymc on 04.27.2009 1:12 PM

I maybe kind of late on this post but My wifes cat is named Athena. It's nickname is Athena Ghost (as in i-seen-a ghost).

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